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I honestly should not have to say this, and it annoys me that I now feel compelled to, but whatever.

It is not and has never been my intention to 'hurt' Tesla Motors. (whether or not I could)

Whatever personal issues I might have with the CEO -- and I do have a few -- I have great respect for him as an entrepreneur and general visionary.

I care very much about the company's mission to help transition our society away from our (increasingly gruesome) dependence on oil.

And if I'd known about the requirements for the DOE loan before the ongoing sordid story of our divorce went public -- which I did not, since it's not like the CEO exactly tells me these things -- I would have readjusted my "demands". (Ironically, one of the reasons why I posted them in the first place was to discount assumptions that I was "going after" Tesla in a way that might damage the company.)

It is the CEO's responsibility to nurture and protect the company's future, not mine. But I am emotionally invested in this company's success.

And the car itself is quite awesome.



dream car


please note: as I tire of the misogynistic bullshit this blog has witnessed in recent weeks, any such comments on this particular post will be deleted. Play nice.
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readingthedark
Jun. 23rd, 2010 10:52 pm (UTC)
You are wonderful and I think very highly of you.
coppervale
Jun. 23rd, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Ditto that.
(Anonymous)
Jun. 24th, 2010 12:46 am (UTC)
I have read your blog for years. You obviously support Tesla and you have informed many people who would not otherwise know of the company of Telsa's merits.

You are candid and astute. You have my respect.

JulieB
(Anonymous)
Jun. 24th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
Your honesty and how you've handled the divorce thus far is AMAZING. I think you deserve what you are asking for.
shveta_thakrar
Jun. 25th, 2010 01:35 am (UTC)
This. You rock, Justine. And I still want to meet you someday!
christinenorris
Jun. 24th, 2010 01:52 am (UTC)
You're right, you shouldn't have to say it.

And that car IS awesome. I used it as an example to argue with someone over the overturning of the six-month moratorium on offshore drilling. I thought it was bull, six months is nothing to ensure safety.

He thought six months was too long and would cost too much to oil companies (oh, boo f-ing hoo) and workers (okay, I'll give you that one).

I bet him BP would beg to differ.
dsgood
Jun. 24th, 2010 02:06 am (UTC)
Yes, you shouldn't have to say it.
quirkytizzy
Jun. 24th, 2010 10:35 am (UTC)
You have a particularly unusual cross to bear, and I think you are bearing it exceedingly well. Most men and women across the world do not have to deal with divorce in a celebrity limelight, and had mine been publicized to the level yours has been, I would have fallen to pieces.

Whatever they say - and I know it can't easily be brushed off (we're human, after all) - just know that there are people out there who see that you are in a truly sticky situation and thus the back and forth's are going to be messier. And the mess is not your fault, you just happened to be the famous author who just happened to be married to a famous director and thus the divorce is also famous.

Truly, Justine, you are handling this waaaaaay better than anyone I know ever could.
quirkytizzy
Jun. 24th, 2010 10:54 am (UTC)
(Sidenote: I found out a few days ago that my boyfriend has Ron on twitter, and I follow you via LJ. I like you better.)
shveta_thakrar
Jun. 25th, 2010 01:33 am (UTC)
"It is not and has never been my intention to 'hurt' Tesla Motors."

Someone actually said this about you?! For crying out loud. I shouldn't be surprised, but. . .
(Anonymous)
Jun. 25th, 2010 05:31 am (UTC)
Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
Car/Vehicle start-ups are a very hard market. A car is not paypal period. It is commendable to take on such a venture but manufacturing a thing at a profit is not as easy as people think. Loss cannot be covered by volume. It just cannot. I read the prospectus for the IPO. It is a risky venture right now. New things usually are... Sad that you and your soon-to-be ex did not discuss his business contracts and their requirements before you hit the very public courts. One would have thought some lawyer would have thought of that. Lawyers never do their job well it seems. You cannot ruin or hurt Tesla motors. If "you" had the power to do all of that nastiness did you also cause the BP gusher also since you drive a car I assume? No sweetie. Things in the world are no longer working like they "used" to work. That is just how this is going to go for awhile.
moschus
Jun. 25th, 2010 07:06 am (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
Wait, I *didn't* cause the BP gusher? What a relief! Now I can go shopping. :)

You might have noticed -- sweetie -- that I used words like "intention" and "shouldn't have to say this" and put the word 'hurt' in quotes (you know, like air quotes). Interpret that as you will.





Edited at 2010-06-25 07:22 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
Jun. 25th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
I saw it. I read it. I believe I know what you meant. But you still felt you had to say something and said it on this blog and so you must be feeling "something" needed to be clarified whatever that is as it is yours alone. Just being very supportive. That is all. I am sick of the blame game that seems to be our world. Blame gets us nowhere. Solutions - now that is fun. But you already know that I am sure. You have five children correct? Boys? Lord have mercy. The "sweetie" word used because I am southern. We say that to people we like and hope are well. It is an endearing word for my peeps. As you used it in quotes in your response, I am confident you mis-interpreted the usage. Sorry about that - we southerners drawl. My bad. You and yours should join us all tomorrow June 26 as you are near the beach it appears. I am get ready to lose my home and my ocean and your ocean:

http://www.handsacrossthesand.com/
moschus
Jun. 29th, 2010 07:24 pm (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
I think I might have misread your initial comment.

Yeah, I was aware of the hands across the sand event & wanted to take my kids to it.

And you're right. Solutions are the way to go.
(Anonymous)
Jun. 30th, 2010 11:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
I am glad that you now know I did not mean to be offensive. Can't kick the southern out of southerner. Virginia born and bred and now living way down south on the beach. Some hate us but we don't care. We are what we are and that is that. I am hoping the world moves away from anger towards unity. It is very possible and now required for our mutual survival. We are all One even though people don't seem to realize that. Have a nice evening. Again, that "c" word usage was a bit shocking and I am sorry you had to even read that. Even though you seem to be a tough one that doesn't easily fold, that word was just unnecessary.

From a Sweetie sista on the beach....
moschus
Jun. 30th, 2010 11:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
I agree with you 100 percent. sweetie.

wishing you love & peace.
(Anonymous)
Jul. 1st, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
Maybe the "c" word user had too much bourbon. That usually starts a cursing streak out of someone....

Thanks for the blessing of peace and good wishes. May we all have same. SS
(Anonymous)
Jul. 2nd, 2010 03:39 am (UTC)
Re: Why would "you" be able to hurt Tesla Motors?
Oh...and watch this and you will understand why my peeps speak the way we do. This county is in my birth state, Fauqier and we are being made fun of on national t.v.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKK61T8RrWY

This is my southern life. Lord. It is funny.

Liz Goings daughter of Rick and I have never been married - look it up. Him not me. I's stayin' behind the lines in dis world. but, I feel your pain. :) And, you can always call me sweetie - especially if we spar. And, we will but in a good way. "wink"

Take your children to Virginia when you have a chance. It is beautiful. There is nothing like a morning in the Blue Ridge mountains driving from Charlottesville. Lord my 5 brothers cannot get enough of it and they are all under the age of 21. And, I, their sister, am older than you. Ya'll can go to the Stoke Stomp. Jazz on the lawn of a very, very old home.

The air, so crisp. And, clean. You will love it, sweetie. Just love it.
(Anonymous)
Jun. 25th, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC)
Well, while I haven't known you enough from reading you to say, you don't SEEM like you'd try to hurt anyone.

Here's hoping everyone comes out happy...

Dave/DChamp
(Anonymous)
Jun. 29th, 2010 05:04 am (UTC)
Elon Musk
Elon is a greedy bastard. Plain and simple. Use to work for him (SpaceX). Met his golddigging girlfriend and quite honestly, he is a DOG!! I mean seriously, who proposes to their girlfriend while still married and going through a messy divorce???
moschus
Jun. 29th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
Re: Elon Musk
Talulah is lovely, and I believe she really cares for him.
(Anonymous)
Jun. 29th, 2010 11:19 pm (UTC)
If I don't like you based upon publicly available info, will you preclude that I hate all women?
Based upon a cursory view of your blog you claim that many men are misogynists. If I deem you as a gold digger, as you have proclaimed yourself, are you going to categorize me as a man that despises women. Maybe I just hate you personally. Cunt.
moschus
Jun. 29th, 2010 11:46 pm (UTC)
Re: If I don't like you based upon publicly available info, will you preclude that I hate all women?
1) I never claimed that many men are misogynists (although yeah, some men actually are, so deal with it). I said I was tired of the "misogynistic bullshit" (ie: comments like "I hope you get raped in the parking lot" and references to my "vile vagina" and other attempts to degrade me sexually). difference.

2) Sure, you can dislike me. But calling a stranger "cunt" and telling her you "hate" her -- based on nothing more than a cursory view of a blog and your own kneejerk assumptions about a situation you know very little about -- would qualify as a misogynistic act, yeah. Sorry.

3) Someone might think you have better things to do with your time.

Edited at 2010-06-30 12:01 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
Jun. 30th, 2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
Re: If I don't like you based upon publicly available info, will you preclude that I hate all women?
The "C" word? And in print? Lord have mercy. Name-calling gets us all nowhere.

Sincerely, Southern missas who uses the word "sweetie:

Sweetie Justine, on behalf of that person and that person's family and I don't even know them, humanity apologizes. Clearly, someone is having a bad time and it taking it out on this blog. I hope that person finds some peace.
alterata
Nov. 5th, 2010 10:33 pm (UTC)
Re: If I don't like you based upon publicly available info, will you preclude that I hate all women?
I object strongly to the language employed in this post, specifically the deeply offensive and punishingly coarse misuse of the word 'preclude.' The English language deserves an apology from the overreaching moron who committed this flagrant and unnecessary cacology. I would advise him to stick with his cherished four-letter words such as 'cunt' and the like, which are clearly more expressive of his charming insights, and to leave the more challenging words culled from SAT-study guides to the adults.
(Anonymous)
Jun. 30th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)
playing nice
Justine -- I understand your frustration, but please don't ask them to play nice. Please don't delete their hate mail. The "misogynistic bullshit" intrigues your readers. Watching and waiting for THEM to respond, openly revealing their misplaced hatred and their gross stupidity and then watching and waiting for you to respond with insight and intelligence is one of the best parts of this whole dialogue. A stream of well-wishers and kind words (nice) is not what keeps me coming back to your life. Rather, it's your position and your perspective, especially as it responds to the narrow, angry, silly ones among us. I believe that your truest gift as a writer is in your observations about the real life living itself out around you everyday. Hang in there. And thanks.
moschus
Jun. 30th, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC)
Re: playing nice
You know, I was actually wondering about that. Thanks very much for that comment.

Duly noted. :)
(Anonymous)
Jul. 3rd, 2010 02:34 pm (UTC)
Divorce is tough
As a man who almost went through one (we saved our marriage as it teetered on the edge of the abyss) , I took a hard look at what life with three boys was going to be like after the split. Not nice. I have the utmost empathy for you.

Have courage.
(Anonymous)
Jul. 7th, 2010 07:54 am (UTC)
Divorce
I have to say as a man currently going through a divorce your husband is getting off lucky if this article is true http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article7133822.ece
You should be entitled to at least enough to provide your children with the same lifestyle he financially can provide them with, dang it if he can fly them in the private jet you should be able to have equal access. As for me I have no money for my ex and I to fight over just a wonderful 4 year old son. Fortunately after several fits and starts we are trying to deal with it in as adult of a manner as possible. I just hope you and your ex bear in mind that the children are the most important thing surpassing money and its trappings. Hrmmm sorry not trying to be preachy I am sure you have your head in the right place. I never follow celebrity/rich goings on but I wanted to say after reading that article I have immense respect for you and the amount of class you seem to be showing in your ordeal.
thehideous1
Jul. 7th, 2010 08:26 am (UTC)
Re: Divorce
This was my comment I decided I did not want to be anonymous :p I actually signed up for an LJ account dunno that I will use it but maybe I will blog about my experiences with my divorce/custody situation.

I wanted to expand on this statement I made:

I just hope you and your ex bear in mind that the children are the most important thing surpassing money and its trappings.

It took me a good 6 months to come to terms personally with what this means. I live in Las Vegas and have my own business doing computer consulting for small and medium sized businesses. I make a living not a whole lot more but the potential is there to dramatically grow my business locally. (it has been depressed for several years not just due to the economy but personal reasons as well) I have a life here friends and clients etc. however my ex needs to move to LA (she got accepted to a graduate program with full funding to get her Phd) custody wise this is going to suck big time for either one or the other of us. Driving 8 hours round trip to get him for visitation will get outrageously expensive fast. Also what about when he gets into after school activities, little league etc. it would not be fair to take him on the weekends at that point and getting a hotel would be prohibitive. So I decided I was going to move to California as well I am giving up my life in Las Vegas because I believe long term it will be better for my son, myself and my ex-wife relationship wise. I think it will destroy me financially, hell I would not be surprised if I end up living on ramen and broth for awhile. But he will have both of his parents and his life will be as stable as we can make it. Sure I could look at your situation and say the money makes it easier and I am sure it does to some degree but the emotional soul searching and realization that the love and life of the child is more important than personal success for me was the key and a very hard pill to swallow.
moschus
Jul. 9th, 2010 01:28 am (UTC)
Re: Divorce
Thank you, I really appreciate that, and I think by moving to California you're doing a wonderful and noble thing that your son will benefit from in a way that goes beyond words. Kudos.

Yes, money makes everything "easier", but it doesn't protect you from pain. Our kids are happy and thriving, and so young that they've come to just naturally believe that, as my 3 yr old happily put it, "I have two houses! Mommy's house and Daddy's house!" I'm really proud of that.
(Anonymous)
Jul. 9th, 2010 12:25 am (UTC)
If you're not trying to hurt it...
... Then what are you trying to do?

This is his baby.. a work of his lifetime. Entrepreneurs invest their heart and soul into their companies. They spend sleepless nights perfecting their creations, and they pour everything they got into them - just like Elon did, and still does.

I don't know much about you, yes - but you can't claim with a straight face that Tesla is your passion. It's not. You don't know anything, nor care about about how to run a business.

Why then are you trying to gain a share of control in his businesses? Logically, there are only two conclusions:

1) You are trying to gain as much of his money as possible.
2) You know perfectly well that this will hurt him the most.
3) Both.

It certainly seems like Option #3 is the most likely one ...
moschus
Jul. 9th, 2010 01:22 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...
I never claimed that Tesla was my "passion", I said I was "emotionally invested" in it. Of course I am.

Look. When you go into mediation, a judge hears both sides of the case and then sets a number that he thinks is a reasonable and fair settlement given all the circumstances involved. You then adjust the numbers to come out with that. If a man is cash-poor, for example, he can substitute stock for cash. But he might not agree to do that.

I don't want to "hurt" Elon -- I've had two years to work through the emotional issues that attend the end of any marriage. I want to resolve this and get on with my life (and since he's getting married this fall, I would assume he wants the same). I would like to sit down at a negotiating table and respectfully figure out a deal that satisfies both of us (and we actually weren't all that far off). But Elon made it very clear that that was not going to happen -- it was his deal or no deal -- so we're stuck in this increasingly ugly predicament until the courts decide one way or the other.

And keep in mind that what I was actually asking for -- which was meant as the starting point for negotiations, not the end point -- actually represents a small (!) portion of Elon's total assets. He's going to be fine. And so am I. It's not like anybody should be crying for either one of us (not that I think anybody is).




Edited at 2010-07-09 01:23 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
Jul. 9th, 2010 04:31 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...
From what I understand you were legally entitled for 20 million (which any sane person can live the rest of their life just sitting on their ass), but Elon offered you 4 times the amount, $80 million. Yet its not enough for you?

Even without any of his money (I am not saying you don't deserve it), you are independently wealthy enough to take care of yourself, you are a successful writer.

I read this story and I simply can't wrap my head around it. People like you makes people like me not want to ever get married, because you don't know if your spouse will turn in to a vindicative, money sucking leech and no pre-nup in the world will shield me from people like you.

Utterly despicable.

You care about Tesla as much as you care about that $15k purse you will only use once.

Emotionally invested, my ass.
moschus
Jul. 9th, 2010 05:03 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...
Elon did not offer me 4 times that amount (are you kidding? I would have been beyond thrilled. I would have taken that on the spot.)

If Elon offered me a one-time cash payment of ten million (plus the house), I would have taken that on the spot.

What he offered me (the "thirty million" or so in support/alimony) was to be spread over twenty-five years or so with no adjustment for inflation and no security should he lose everything (which, given our five kids and his high-risk, high-stakes, high-flying personality, is something I need to take into account even if I don't believe it will actually happen). The real issue was what I would receive upfront (not much, relatively speaking, including the house). If Elon had truly negotiated with me, instead of dictating the terms and threatening to lower the amount and generally trying to bully me into accepting (which meant on that principle alone I could not agree to it), we could, I believe, have worked this out.

Yes, the numbers are obscene. Yes, this divorce is obnoxious.

And like I would pay 15k for a purse. Don't be an ass. This isn't Real Housewives of Whatever.


Edited at 2010-07-09 05:25 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
Jul. 9th, 2010 06:15 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elon-musk/correcting-the-record-abo_b_639625.html

Is he lying?

There is no way for me to know. But my reaction was based on his writing and taking his word for it.

This news particularly hit a nerve for me as I have seen 2 of my friend's life absolutely ruined because their spouse (in both case women, but I am sure it goes the other way too) took advantage of the fact that the law is unjustifiably on their favor. And they basically leeched their spouse dry for every penny they were worth.

You are right. "The numbers are obscene and this divorce is obnoxious."

Sad actually.

Sorry for being an ass, but I couldn't help it.
moschus
Jul. 9th, 2010 06:38 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...


I am aware of his Huffpo post. :)

There's a hardball negotiating tactic -- and Elon is very much a hardball negotiator -- that involves spinning or puffing up the offer to make it seem better than it actually is. Elon is nobody's victim, especially mine (or any woman's).

The law requires the primary breadwinner to "maintain living standards" for the sake of the kids, so that they're not induced into preferring one parent over the other but have roughly similar lifestyles at both residences.

Divorce is hell, no matter what kind of money is involved. I suggest you avoid it if you can. :)

And prenups make a lot of sense. Just make sure that both parties have lawyers and that you make a full and thorough financial disclosure. Then it's rock solid.







Edited at 2010-07-09 06:57 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
Jul. 9th, 2010 06:59 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...
Hey,

For what its worth, I hope you guys can maintain a civil relationship after this nasty episode so that the kids can have a "normal" life.

I am just curious, you don't have to share if you feel its too personal, but do you ever regret having married to Elon (if you take kids out of the equation)?

Good luck!
moschus
Jul. 9th, 2010 07:27 am (UTC)
Re: If you're not trying to hurt it...
I hope so too, and I plan on doing my part. :)

Do I regret marrying Elon? Absolutely not. We were soulmates for a long time. We're very different (obviously) but we were also both eccentric and iconoclastic in ways that made us well-suited to each other. I can't imagine having married (and then divorced) anyone else. I was lucky to have that.



(Anonymous)
Jul. 9th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC)
privilege
you are an outrageously (outrageously!!) wealthy person with maybe a tad too much time on your hands... have you thought about focusing on those truly in need (and yes, i saw your bp posts)? you seem like you have much soul work to do. good luck.
moschus
Jul. 9th, 2010 08:59 pm (UTC)
Re: privilege
hmmm. interesting that someone who would leave such an inaccurate and maliciously intentioned comment would say that I am the one who needs to do "soul work".

blogging, by the way, is a crucial part of something called "building an author platform", necessary in my line of work (and yes, I do know what work is :)

Edited at 2010-07-09 09:03 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
Aug. 1st, 2010 07:02 am (UTC)
Spare us - the only thing you're invested in is your own materialism and greed. Seriously, how do you sleep at night?

No amount of rationalizing and (fake) introspection on your part can distract from the fact that you're simply an unethical person. What you're trying to do is nothing more than theft, stealing, robbery (pick your favorite term - they all apply equally to you).

But what's perhaps most sickening about you, Justine Musk, is that you are so blissfully unaware just how bad a person you really are (deep down, in your core, hidden from the view of others). The way people behave in divorce speaks volumes of what kind of person they really are, and wow... you're shameless greed and gold digging had certainly shown us all what kind of person you really are.
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I'm the author of three published novels: the dark fantasies BLOODANGEL and LORD OF BONES (Roc/Penguin) and the YA supernatural thriller UNINVITED (MTV/Simon&Schuster). I also have stories in the MAMMOTH BOOK OF VAMPIRE ROMANCE 2 and ZOMBIES: ENCOUNTERS WITH THE HUNGRY DEAD. I'm working on a psychological thriller called THE DECADENTS. I am divorced, with sons, and live in Bel Air.

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